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I didn't plan on posting anything about Union Square Ventures' most recent investment, del.icio.us.
The founder, Joshua Schachter, posted twice to his list about the investment and I figure that is pretty much the whole story. If you want the details on the investment, that's about all there is to tell.
But I've gotten a number of comments on this blog and elsewhere suggesting that there are people who'd like to hear my side of the story.
So, I'll try to give you that.
del.icio.us is a really interesting web service that lets anyone who uses it "tag the internet".
Most people, me included, go there for the first time, look at del.icio.us, and then shake their heads and say "I don't get it".
But for those who come back and actually use it, the experience is very different.
del.icio.us becomes a critical tool for them to manage their web experiences.
That's what happened to me. That's what happened to Brad. That's what happened to Charlie.
So we figured we ought to pay some attention to del.icio.us.
What we learned when we dug into it is that "tagging" is a relatively new, but increasingly important, phenomenon on the web.
Simply put, tagging is the exercise of associating words, any words you want to use, with URLs. That's all it is - a series of words and URLs. The words are the tags. But when lots of people start tagging with a similar tool and similar words, and the tags are shared, some very interesting things result.
I like to send people to the del.icio.us tag page to see what that result is.
del.icio.us made tagging popular, but others have used it with incredible results. The most obvious example is Flickr. I believe that tags and RSS feeds of the tags has made Flickr vastly superior to other photo sharing sites.
RSS feeds make tagging even more powerful. Because everyone's tag can be an RSS feed, tagging becomes extremely viral and portable.
Jeff Jarvis was the first person that pointed the power of this out to me. I asked him about del.icio.us and he said that he didn't tag, but he pointed me to this tag that he subscribed to as an RSS feed. It was like looking at someone's personal daily bookmarks. That was the aha moment for me.
I would encourage anyone who is curious about tagging to go to del.icio.us, register to create an account, and start tagging.
The most difficult part is getting the posting window into an easy place to use. I highly recommend the experimental bookmarklet. If you haven't done something like this before, it will not be clear what you need to do. In Internet Explorer, you need to select one of the posting windows from the links on the about page and add them to you "link" bookmarks. It's much simpler if you use Firefox. In that case, you simply drag the link for the bookmarklet to the place on your browser underneath the field that displays the URL. That will create a little icon that says "post" on your browser toolbar. Anyime you are on a page you want to tag, you click on that icon, and tag away.
That is all there is to del.icio.us really. It's hard to get going, but once you do, you will be surprised by the results, particularly if you share the tags with others.
If you want a simpler way to understand the power of tagging, I suggest John Udell's screencast. It's a really good description of how this stuff works.
I am going to try sharing my tags with everyone who reads my blog. The post underneath this one is an automatic daily post to my blog of everything I've tagged the day before and the tags I used. I hope you will all find that useful.
Many people ask why Joshua took an investment. He built del.icio.us almost two years ago and its been up on the Internet for almost a year and a half. It has a huge number of users and is growing very quickly.
But del.icio.us needed some things that Joshua could no longer provide in his spare time (nights and weekends).
Seth Goldstein thought Joshua could use some capital and introduced us to him.
Joshua needed capital for the two major priorities.
The first is scale. The service is taking off and it needs to be configured like the popular web service that it has become. That means boxes, bandwidth, redundancy, etc. That costs money.
The second is ease of use. That means tweaks to the user interface that make the service easier to use for non-techies. That means new features that users have been asking for. That means spending time writing code, testing it, making the service work better for its users.
Joshua's hope is that by dedicating himself full time to the service it will become better for its faithful users and better for new users. That feeds right back into the community because more tags means more shared information which is what this is all about.
The question everyone asks is "what is the business model". To be completely and totally honest, we don't yet know. This was a seed investment and none of the investors put up very much capital. Joshua retained complete control of the service and is going to focus on making it better. That is all anyone wants to see happen right now. In time it will become clear what the business model should be. And there are a number of them to choose from for sure.
In summary, we believe tagging is important, its here to stay, del.icio.us is a very important participant in the tagging phenomenon, and we are really excited to be part of its development.
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Comments
Just so you know, I'm planning on taking credit for you funding del.icio.us once it's far enough in the past that people are getting fuzzy on the details. I'll archive this post that I wrote back in November and then show it to everyone I can think of, telling them that you were a big fan of my blog. :)
Posted by: W.B. McNamara | Apr 14, 2005 6:07:52 PM
Just in case you have any more cash lying around, fotothing.com also now supports tags and is looking for investment. ;)
Suggestions for integrating photos with del.icio.us also welcome. :)
Posted by: Dom Ramsey | Apr 14, 2005 7:06:26 PM
Fred: Thanks for the background on how you got hooked up with del.icio.us. Your experience getting started with it reminds me of my own. After my first visit, I think what finally prompted me to give it another try (many weeks later) was the coffee/hot chocolate machine at my office. The machine says "Delicious" on the front in big letters, providing some nice subliminal advertising every morning. ;)
Since then, I've converted a few people, but it takes some coaxing to get them past the "But that's a weird URL." Once they get over that initial skepticism, it's no time before they're discovering new sites and getting hooked.
P.S. To deal with the URL skeptics, perhaps Josh should consider acquiring delicious.com from the Michigan-based vendor of tasty treats... :)
Posted by: David Gilford | Apr 14, 2005 8:23:50 PM
Well, I am scratching my head a little here. I was at a meeting a little while ago where Dave Sifry was showing Technorati, in answer to the question "what is the business model" his reply was "we are working on it", this was after he had just received funding. Now here you also say that "we dont know yet" to the same question. Am I missing something obvious? How is it possible to get funding without a business model?
Like many here I have seen a great deal written on various blogs about the process required to secure funding. The requirements are fabulously demanding, painful and expensive in terms of time and effort. So much so I figured selling my first born to the devil would be an easier and ultimately less costly option. However here we have all of that combined wisdom turned on its head it seems?
Is it that having a high profile is more important than having a star management team, a strong business plan and even perhaps revenue? I would be keen to hear how you resolve this apparent contradiction, no doubt you can.
In the mean time I am going to plan on building a high profile web search aggregation application with my technology. I would be thrilled if that got traction ;)
btw. I do fundamentally understand the power of tags and the semantic web, if they spread they will open up some powerful opportunities.
Posted by: Ian Wilson | Apr 15, 2005 1:15:31 AM
What about getting spammed to death? I mean, I believe tagging has some potential, but it is a service that can be easily compromised through a relatively simple series of "hacks." The service isn't seeing this yet, but as soon as it begins to scale, whammo. I'm sure you guys have thought of this, but I'd like to see the solution that doesn't limit usability.
I would also believe that some of the strength of del.icio.us would be tight integration with the browser. Not just so that you can tag a page, but also such that a tagged page can reveal it's tags to the visiting party. The Firefox plugin should be trivial...
Posted by: Alex Rowland | Apr 15, 2005 2:58:42 AM
Tags are quite interesting even beyond blog themes - it might be a very good and generic alternative when organizing data. Alternative to the classic tree-structure in fact.
We're using tags to organize people in a business (model), in other words replacing hierarchies, grid structures and flat organizations. Replacing two-,three- and other limited dimensional models with something that has no limits - that certainly opens some interesting possibilities...
Posted by: sig | Apr 15, 2005 6:01:50 AM
I would think the business model is pretty obvious for this type of service... similar to GMail you start to get ads targeted to the TAG that you are looking at or for. Not too obtrusive, and at least it's an ad that you might want to see.
Of course, since I've never been able to attract any funding (VC or otherwise) for my Quantum Entanglement Communication project, I might not be the best expert to address this :-)
Posted by: Ewan Grantham | Apr 15, 2005 9:31:59 AM
Great post.
For an old turkey like me this is really exciting stuff.
I blogged about it this morning, but "trackbacks" didn't pick up any link to my post. Am I doing something wrong?
It's just a blogger freebie so maybe I need to be paying for a hosted service...
Anyway, I really like your site. The bloglines aggregator has it at the top because in alphabetical sequence it starts with "A."
On another note, the troll who left the nasty comment isn't worth the energy it takes to comment back. In the same way that neighborhoods control graffiti by painting it over before it is 24 hours old, such comments should be deleted. When gang activity started in Smyrna, Ga. the city passed an ordnance that anyone whose property had graffiti was expected to paint it over or pay for the city to do so. Key city employees were furnished with paint and so far it seems to be working. That was three or four years ago. No attention is a better remedy than negative attention, IMO.
Posted by: John Ballard | Apr 15, 2005 8:44:35 PM
There is something lacking about del.icio.us in its current design that is hard to pinpoint. I dont think it will work unless a fundemental change in the way it networks people is made.
Posted by: e3ashig | Apr 16, 2005 4:03:57 AM
"The question everyone asks is "what is the business model". To be completely and totally honest, we don't yet know."
Yeah, right. Every time a service on the web gets investments they try to keep the "aww shucks" atmosphere going as if real business plans aren't discussed. I don't buy it.
Posted by: Hashim | Apr 18, 2005 10:45:23 AM
hey i found this through del.icio.us, and you're absolutly correct. at first i didnt quite get it, but decided to give it a try and now i cant get away from it. in most schools (including mine) if you bookmark a page, it's gone the next day, thus everyone must print. I just told me composition teacher about this, and i have a feeling del.icio.us will be getting quite a few more patrons next year. im addicted to it like i am photoshop, i feel weird on a computer without it.
Posted by: b. bobling | Apr 18, 2005 3:28:38 PM
Found some more great del.icio.us tools.
Posted by: Ravi | Apr 20, 2005 2:23:33 PM
anyone questioning the use of 'tags' only needs to take a quick lookup at how google uses tage in 'gmail'. Simple - Powerful
lyndonk
Posted by: lyndonk | Apr 20, 2005 2:57:50 PM
Wow! As someone who is currently struggling to get a very tangible business model funded currently, hats off to Joshua and good luck...
I think it's great that there are people and insitutions who are willing to back early stage ideas with money -- everyone we've talked to constantly says "Hey, great idea and we think the market is ripe and blah blah, but we don't provide startup financing."
Posted by: Hrush | Apr 21, 2005 4:07:33 AM
I'd be curious to know how they plan to avoid upcoming surges of spam. By spamming del.icio.us, you get both the mass broadcasting effect and the comment spamming effect.
I'd also be curious to know how they are going to avoid upcoming surges of noise. The simple fact is that tagging the web is irrelevant.
Last but not least, I'd be curious to understand how del.icio.us plans to make money. But then I suppose they've persuaded you they will.
Posted by: Denis de Bernardy | Apr 23, 2005 8:30:23 AM
I was one of the chaps who went to del.icio.us and had absolutely no idea what it was. So I googled it and came up with this article. Very interesting concept and I can't wait to get involved in it!
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