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I wrote a post about hyperlocal content almost two years ago, comparing Backfence to the 101 effort in North Carolina. I said this about hyperlocal content (now called placeblogging) at that time:

Is this a venture fundable opportunity?  In time, certainly.  Is it too early right now?  Probably.  But this is an area worth watching closely and I will be doing that.

I have been watching this area closely ever since and while there have been a number of interesting services that have developed, I am not sure any of them are venture scale. I like Jonathan Weber's New West Network. I like George Johnson's Buffalo Rising. I like Fresno Famous which the Fresno Bee just bought. I like Baristanet.

And here in NYC, I like Gothamist, Curbed, and Eater.

But as much as I like these placeblogs, I've been looking for something that can scale more than a local blog. And as I said in that initial post:

But 101 does something that I think is absolutely critical.  It aggregates its content from people who are already blogging on their own.  It grabs that content and aggregates it and features it.  It does not require that people come to 101 to post their content.  I think that is the right model for a truly scaleable local platform.

When Susan and Mark from Backfence came to see me back then, I told them that I didn't think building a platform for people to come to post about their community was the right approach. I told them that people are already blogging and the thing to do is aggregate all that activity. I read recently on Matthew Ingram's blog that Susan and Mark have left Backfence over "strategic differences". [Mark tells me that he actually has rejoined the company to refocus it. Sorry for getting that wrong]. That's too bad as they certainly brought a lot of passion and energy to the placeblogging effort.

We believe the big opportunity in user generated content is aggregation. My blog will only generate $30k per year in revenue. But Techmeme, which occasionally links to my blog, can generate a lot more. Because they aggregate the content of hundreds, maybe thousands of blogs.

So that's why I am excited to see some new services arriving on the placeblogging scene. Last week we saw the launch of Placeblogger, a new service by Lisa Williams of Watertown's placeblog called H2Otown. Placeblogger, if you don't click on that link and check it out yourself, is a directory of placeblogs. You want to find the best placeblogs in your town? Try placeblogger.

But I am even more excited about Steven Johnson and John Geraci's outside.in. Outside.in is what you'd get if you combined google maps, technorati, and delicious and focused that service on placeblogs. I think outside.in is barely scratching the surface of what it can and should do, but already you can go there, type in your zip code and/or navigate via the map and find blog posts about your town/city/neighborhood.

Now that's a scalable model for placeblogging. And the best part is these aggregators are going to drive traffic to the placebloggers who are already churning out high quality content and they are going to incent others to start placeblogging. I posted on washington square park yesterday and that post is now in outside.in. Seeing my post getting picked up in an aggregator like that makes me interested in doing more placeblogging.

So now we've got an ecosystem developing around placeblogging. The issue never was the platform. That exists with blogger, typepad, wordpress, flickr, youtube, etc, etc. The issue was content, navigation, and discovery. And that is all coming together. Very nice.

January 8, 2007 in Venture Capital and Technology | Permalink

Comments

While you mull BackFence and placeblogger.com, come check out blognetnews.com. I think we have some of the same ideas you do.

Posted by: David Mastio | Jan 8, 2007 4:58:37 PM

Just signed up for Outside.in and I really like their aggregation approach. Some blogs make great local posts but are not specific to that one area. This will pick them up.

I think the interface could use some work to make it more dynamic and easier to find relevant information. Also, some of the articles are via the NY Times, prompting me to login. It's a start and there's so much that can be done with this type of model.

I typed in 10002 and I found out that a 26 story condo is going to cover the kitchen window of my LES apartment. Fantastic.

Posted by: Matt | Jan 8, 2007 5:17:28 PM

Aaagh! Fred! How could you forget us at Pegasus News?

Give us a look. Will be interested to hear what you think. We're not an unmanned "turn it on and let the feeds and users run it" service -- and I think that's precisely our edge.

And, usual Alexa caveats aside, here's what we're doing in one market.

We aren't hyperlocal. And we aren't a blog.

We think that a nimble digital hybrid of user-gen, content partner and staff content, heavy on the data, and customized to the individual is a way to create a local service that scales as big or bigger than the daily newspaper's web presence, yielding enough ad revenue to exchange dollars and engagement between local stores and local customers.

'Course we've got a long way to go to prove the back half of that. And we can still use all the help we can get...

Posted by: Mike Orren | Jan 8, 2007 5:22:32 PM

Go Placeblogging! Love it! Have been waiting for it!

Posted by: Karen E | Jan 8, 2007 5:29:06 PM

one thing you are neglecting is that sites like Digg and Techmeme aren't interested in lyperlocal content--so while your blog might generate 30K, a hyperlocal site might generate only a fraction of that because it might not generate links from national aggregators nor national bloggers.

That's just a fact of really niche-y blogging (trust me, I know.)

Posted by: tish grier | Jan 8, 2007 5:45:55 PM

Topix.net is interested in hyperlocal content and it is so much more! The best service on the market, IMHO.

* Local news pages for US and International Cities
* News pages categorized by subject
* News & Blog search engine
* Forum system
* Blog page featuring popular blogs
http://www.topix.net/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topix.net

Posted by: Dimitar Vesselinov | Jan 8, 2007 6:55:03 PM

Thanks, Fred!

Posted by: Lisa Williams | Jan 8, 2007 8:02:08 PM

Fred...can you give me a quick run down on "scalable"? What do you mean by scalable and why is this business model scalable? Does this refer to monetization of a project that can garner a lot of traffic? If a commentator has the answer to this go ahead and school me, I'll check back later. Thanks.

PS your side "bling" is overlapping about 4 characters on the left hand side.

Posted by: Robert J. Ed | Jan 9, 2007 9:08:45 AM

Fred, thanks not just for the mention, but for the update on your perspective of hyperlocal.

In the background we've been working on ways to evolve not just the content we provide local audiences--local audiences increasingly disconnected from their local newspapers--but ways to also evolve how we provide that content: aggregation, geotagging, user community, local event notification, and some other content delivery tools that help put in front of folks, in different ways, and at different touch points, the local content they want to see.

In addition to rolling out some of these tools in a redesigned Buffalo Rising later this month, we're also starting to scale our efforts outside Buffalo with a product called Until Monday, currently in public beta. It's more a culture and events driven placeblog--intended to appeal primarily to local readers, and secondarily to folks interested in visiting select urban destinations armed with the inside scoop. We're implementing the same features of the new Buffalo Rising into a redesign of Until Monday that will launch later this month as well with a new instance in Toronto and with a beefed-up editorial crew in Brooklyn. We're hoping to launch one more instance this quarter.

Thanks again for this post, for mentioning our effort in the space, and the opportunity to elaborate.

Best,
George

Posted by: George Johnson | Jan 9, 2007 10:27:08 AM

One super local program that I like is PlaceSite.

http://info.placesite.com/index.rhtml?ps=1

When you sit down in a coffee shop with PlaceSite, you get a screen with chat, message boards, google maps, etc - but all only for that particular coffee shop and only visible when your in that coffee shop.

Its a great example of how to use technology to build community - instead of coffee shops shutting off the wireless because of the loss of community.

Tangential to the discussion today but still local and interesting..

Posted by: PRoales | Jan 9, 2007 4:47:18 PM

this rockets me back to the late '90s at digital city (later aol local) when we went from a platform for community- and individual-created content in 30 cities to the same for hundreds of cities and towns (i think we called the expansion project mini-cities), in an attempt to get to the block level.

not that it's at all easy today but having something to aggregate vs starting from scratch would have been a godsend back then!

Posted by: rick | Jan 9, 2007 11:06:23 PM

It's great to see the various models being tried. I agree that many of these hyperlocal efforts aren't venture scale and don't need to be for the time being. Like Rick (AOLer), I was part of the early local efforts being part of the founding Sidewalk (Microsoft's effort later rolled into Citysearch) overseeing all the city rollouts. In a lot of ways they were ahead of their time and simply consumed too much resource and thus hemorraged money.

Since escaping the big city life and moving to a resort community (Sun Valley), I became an investor in a fledgling local business (www.sunvalleyonline.com). Unlike a lot of the sites listed in Fred's post, it's fairly "low tech" and doesn't have some of the cool tools like Outside.In and others have. My impression is those sites work for the crowd that "gets it" but Sun Valley is skewed towards a baby boomer crowd who don't know a tag from a blog. I can safely say that we are responsible for our town even hearing of a blog let alone participating in & reading them.

Consequently, we've taken a bridge strategy of bringing them familiar information they are used to seeing in a newspaper (i.e., traditional professional journalist breaking news) and then blending in blogs, wiki, etc. The great thing is its working and we're now read by more people than the local newspaper (communities this size often only have a weekly paper) and are driving a lot of water cooler buzz. This has been done as a bootstrap in ~ 2 years and we've gone from having to sink a modest amount of money to breaking even to making a little profit now and on a great trajectory.

Down the road, it's plausible something like this could be venture/private equity scale as you may have seen something called "Plum TV" where they are rolling up local, resort-town TV stations. I think CNBC reported they raised $200M of private equity to do the roll-up. They are rolling up markets like Sun Valley, Vail, Martha's Vineyard, etc. that combined provide scale for upscale brands like Cartier, Lexus, etc.

Posted by: Dave Chase | Jan 10, 2007 9:24:03 AM

Speaking of venture scale, the founder of Outside.in announced that they had received venture funding yesterday at the Inman conference (internet real estate conference). He didn't say with who though.

Posted by: Niki Scevak | Jan 10, 2007 2:32:19 PM

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